All breeder’s have the right to determine their own cats and kittens’ worth personally and in law.
A breeder sets their own cats/kittens worth by what they generally believe them to be .
Some breeders in the UK have charged around £1900 before the pandemic happened.
Nobody knows a breeder’s costs. This will massively fluctuate from breeder to breeder .
For example a breeder who charges £1400, may have a higher profit margin than a breeder charging quite a lot more.
Our prices are our prices we do not do discounts for two and we will not barta in any way shape or form .
We make sure all our cats and kittens go to the best homes possible and we would have a three year waiting list if we allowed everyone to join our waiting list.
Our prices depend on many aspects such as laboratory testing and extra health testing we offer on certain kittens etc etc more information on PDA .
Make sure to read our Waiting list FAQ .
Examples of things which can influence a breeder price decision.
- Professional or hobbie ( one pays tax one does not ) 20%
- Health testing THIS MASSIVELY DIFFERS
- Kitten quality does differ ..
- What a kitten comes with
- Food which breeder reared kittens on.
- What food adults are on some breeders only feed adults dry . We feed wet 3 times a day to all 4 times kittens
- Monthly website costs.
- Do they deliver? separate liability and insurance to breeding
- Licensing and insurance for breeding
- legal cover
- If they show? this is expensive to do .
- We generally early retire all females compared to most breeders and or have much less than the normal numbers of litters with a breeding female( read our about us ) and some times cats don’t have their first litter till age 18 months plus .
- Pedigree blood lines a breeder has, some are special and rare or of excellent quality.
- Which countries they have imported from…. This alone massively influences cat prices and profit margins,
- What cleaning products one uses .
- multi registered with cats GCCF AND TICA
- What facilities one has ( this will cost thousands for council approved ones )
- How many times a year a breeder breeds the female vrs the cost of keep.
- Price of the imports they bought for ( all differ)
- How often one does health testing on a cat
- If they really do religiously worm and flee each month
- Keep up annually with vaccinations
- Do they provide health warranty
- Do they have websites they host
- Active social media
- Type of weaning and bedding they use .
- Toys they buy
- Time a breeder puts in
- How the care is
- How the kittens are raised
- How the set ups differ
- Do they specialise with allergies
- What experience one has
- How many kittens a year a breeder truthfully has or cats ..
- housed outside or raised indoors or do they just come in for kitten birthing?
- What is included in kitten packs
- What advice and help is given after an adoption has taken place
- What type of socialization a breeder gives
- Do they have the top birthing pens and whelping kits and vet bedding
- Do they follow the local councils breeding regulations?
- Is a breeder importing or only holding own lines back! big differences in risk and costs .
- The list could go on and on to why a breeder feels they have chosen their pricing structure as they have , we feel although we do not have to explain ourselves we know our prices are right and fair for our large outgoings and tax contributions but we feel mainly it is educational to understand the differences in costs and what could influence the diffrence .
You can still get a good siberian at any price ! we are not saying otherwise in any way shape or form, again price is at a breeders discretion.
Breeding 15 years ago to now things have changed … big reforms and laws and regulations are now in force such as Lucy’s law and many more and although we hate to call them goods , in law that is what they are ( goods of sales act ) owners pay a lot of money for pedigree animals and its important ethical breeding practices take place and to know who you are supporting.
This is why we have a UK consumer law contract in place and all relevant insurance and legal cover .
What has changed in 2020 regards to prices ?
A breeder must think of future litters not just now to continue.
Every year business generally have a price increase .
Prices have increased for everyone across the board including breeders not just owners.
It is a ripple effect.
For us to buy in this has now increased also.
This year many have not imported due to the inflated prices only held back their own lines or imported one or two only or from nearby countries only.
We didn’t, we imported from Russia and the Ukraine.
The hardest countries to import from and the riskiest .
And this year was the riskiest of importing of all times.
The last year and half has been ridiculously high risk factors with borders closing left right and centre.
Nail biting at times.
We had a couple of cats stuck in Russia for 7 months as they closed their border with no notice in 2020.
With us paying board daily.
Health testing gone up each just on a PCR panel profile by 20%
Allergie tests by 20%
Food prices have increased just before the breeding season (Royal Canin)
Certain Cleaning products up by 20-40%
Insurance and licensing has increased by 15%
Flights had gone up and continue to , doubled to tripled and travel prices from Saint petersburg had increased to Moscow before flying.
Pet agents had gone up to import in and clearing agents.
New tax the UK has brought in means that we pay 20 percent on the kitten price coming in as well as 20% importation tax.
Not every breeder or business are affected by inflation but some are .
It depends on what they do and buy.
All our information can be fact checked on websites and proven.
Is a breeder a hobby or professional breeder ?
The government has changed the way of breeding is not breeders , they have commerialsed breeding for many reasons to protect the welfare of animals and owners and to make sure breeders are paying taxes.
So breeders now have a lot more costs and responsibility and regulations than ever before
We stand with the government on that this is the right direction to go in as there any far to many scams bad practices out there now .
But we do not agree with the adopt don’t shop mentality, with out responsibly breeders the animal world would become a land mind of problems and animals with endless health problems and animal cruelty, as what some would call the luxury of owning a pedigree animal they would be labeled as less valuable to many ( which is wrong ) but sadly the case .
Good breeders are not the problem nor do they add to the shelter situation, not one of my animals or kittens have ever been in a shelter or with out a home .
This situation would never occur as i would always take the cat back even at age 13 etc and i no i would always do this , as this is my responsibility also.
The issue is with breeders who do not vet and or take animals back.
We pay tax on each kitten sale and this is a factor in our pricing structure .
We are classed as a professional breeder as it is determined by councils and HMRC to what we are .
Do not think we have more cats or litters than some supposed ‘hobby breeders ‘ as it simply is not the case in any way shape or form .
We pride ourselves on honesty and show all our cats and kittens .
Some hide behind this tagline to pretend they don’t make a profit and that they do not have many cats .
It does not take a genius to know profit does exist .
Some breeders charge £1400 have 5- 10 cats or more do not show and or have 3-6 litters plus a year and will say publically or to shame other breeders on pricing structures and say ‘ I do not make a profit and have not in over 10 years or the whole of my breeding. …. with in these frame that at these prices it is clear to us sometimes these statements are very untrue .
So do not be put off by a professional breeder tag line and to fact check everything you read.
Definition of a hobby breeder .
A “Hobby” breeder is a breeder who breeds the occasional litter of puppies to continue their show/working lines. … They put a great deal of time, effort and thought into breeding and are not breeding for casual reasons or to make money.
Only one of the below is needed to be excluded from using the hobbie tag line.
- Profit of over £1000 .
- 3 more litters a year
- Does not show.
We have the utmost respect for both hobbie and professional breeders and nether is wrong however be aware of the information you read or see regarding price differences .
Hobby breeders do not pay TAX and or have insurance or licences among many other costs.
Some are generally hobby breeders and we know of many brilliant hobby breeders and we must state this .. this is some not all we are only excluded from the hobby tag line as we have made of £1000 in our 15 years breeding.
With in our 15 years we have many of times in certain years and times been legitimate hobby breeders as we have only had one litter in a year and focused solely on showing and absolutely ran at a massive deficit for years and years at a time or we have had big investment years on new facilities new cats etc, so we know first hand hobby breeders do exist but again we never had many litters at these time frames or cats and our prices were than much much lower 15 years ago .