All breeder’s have the right to determine their own cats and kittens’ worth personally and in law.
A breeder sets their own cats/kittens worth by what they generally believe them to be .
Some breeders in the UK have charged around £1900 before the pandemic happened.
Nobody knows a breeder’s costs. This will massively fluctuate from breeder to breeder .
For example a breeder who charges £1400, may have a higher profit margin than a breeder charging quite a lot more.
We make sure all our cats and kittens go to the best homes possible and we would have a three year waiting list if we allowed everyone to join our waiting list.
Our prices depend on many aspects such as laboratory testing and extra health testing we offer on certain kittens etc etc more information on PDA .
Make sure to read our Waiting list FAQ .
Examples of things which can influence a breeder price decision.
- Professional or hobbie ( one pays tax one does not ) 20%
- Health testing THIS MASSIVELY DIFFERS
- Kitten quality does differ ..
- What a kitten comes with
- Food which breeder reared kittens on.
- What food adults are on some breeders only feed adults dry . We feed wet 3 times a day to all 4 times kittens
- Monthly website costs.
- Do they deliver? separate liability and insurance to breeding
- Licensing and insurance for breeding
- legal cover
- If they show? this is expensive to do .
- We generally early retire all females compared to most breeders and or have much less than the normal numbers of litters with a breeding female( read our about us ) and some times cats don’t have their first litter till age 18 months plus .
- Pedigree blood lines a breeder has, some are special and rare or of excellent quality.
- Which countries they have imported from…. This alone massively influences cat prices and profit margins,
- What cleaning products one uses .
- multi registered with cats GCCF AND TICA
- What facilities one has ( this will cost thousands for council approved ones )
- How many times a year a breeder breeds the female vrs the cost of keep.
- Price of the imports they bought for ( all differ)
- How often one does health testing on a cat
- If they really do religiously worm and flee each month
- Keep up annually with vaccinations
- Do they provide health warranty
- Do they have websites they host
- Active social media
- Type of weaning and bedding they use .
- Toys they buy
- Time a breeder puts in
- How the care is
- How the kittens are raised
- How the set ups differ
- Do they specialise with allergies
- What experience one has
- How many kittens a year a breeder truthfully has or cats ..
- housed outside or raised indoors or do they just come in for kitten birthing?
- What is included in kitten packs
- What advice and help is given after an adoption has taken place
- What type of socialisation a breeder gives
- Do they have the top birthing pens and whelping kits and vet bedding
- Do they follow the local councils breeding regulations?
- Is a breeder importing or only holding own lines back! big differences in risk and costs .
- The list could go on and on to why a breeder feels they have chosen their pricing structure as they have , we feel although we do not have to explain ourselves we know our prices are right and fair for our large outgoings and tax contributions but we feel mainly it is educational to understand the differences in costs and what could influence the difference .
You can still get a good Siberian at any price ! we are not saying otherwise in any way shape or form, again price is at a breeders discretion.
Breeding 15 years ago to now things have changed … big reforms and laws and regulations are now in force such as Lucy’s law and many more and although we hate to call them goods , in law that is what they are ( goods of sales act ) owners pay a lot of money for pedigree animals and its important ethical breeding practices take place and to know who you are supporting.
This is why we have a UK consumer law contract in place and all relevant insurance and legal cover .
Is a breeder a hobby or professional breeder ?
The government has changed the way of breeding is not breeders , they have commercialised breeding for many reasons to protect the welfare of animals and owners and to make sure breeders are paying taxes.
So breeders now have a lot more costs and responsibility and regulations than ever before
We stand with the government on that this is the right direction to go in as now there any far to many scams and bad practices out there now .
We are classed as a professional breeder as it is determined by councils and HMRC to what we are .
Do not think we have more cats or litters than some supposed ‘hobby breeders ‘ as it simply is not the case in any way shape or form .
We pride ourselves on honesty and show all our cats and kittens.
Some hide behind this tagline to pretend they don’t make a profit and that they do not have many cats .
It does not take a genius to know profit does exist .
Some breeders charge £1400 have 5- 10 cats or more do not show and or have 3-6 litters plus a year and will say publicly ‘ I do not make a profit and have not in over 10 years or the whole of my breeding. …. with in these frame that at these prices it is clear to us sometimes these statements are very untrue .
So do not be put off by a professional breeder tag line and to fact check everything you read.
Definition of a hobby breeder .
A “Hobby” breeder is a breeder who breeds the occasional litter of puppies to continue their show/working lines. … They put a great deal of time, effort and thought into breeding and are not breeding for casual reasons or to make money.
Only one of the below is needed to be excluded from using the hobbie tag line.
- Profit of over £1000 .
- 3 more litters a year
- Does not show.
We have the utmost respect for both hobbie and professional breeders and nether is wrong however be aware of the information you read or see regarding price differences .
Hobby breeders do not pay TAX and or have insurance or licences among many other costs.
Some are generally hobby breeders and we know of many brilliant hobby breeders and we must state this .. this is some not all we are only excluded from the hobby tag line as we have made of £1000 in our 15 years breeding.
With in our 15 years we have many of times in certain years and times been legitimate hobby breeders as we have only had one litter in a year and focused solely on showing and absolutely ran at a massive deficit for years and years at a time or we have had big investment years on new facilities new cats etc, so we know first hand hobby breeders do exist but again we never had many litters at these time frames or cats and our prices were than much much lower 15 years ago .